There have been some “attempts” at re-writing history, so let’s take a look at the actual words that the person wrote: Continue reading
so they resort to ad hominem attacks…
The little dragon writes on TAM:
I trust information from people who know what they are doing. People who have studied and tested to get their license. People who have to put up with snap safety inspections to keep their insurance current.
What some of the ‘safety guru’s’ (including the main idiot) do is read a book or surf the web. Do they have a GB98? Do they have a EE98? Their MM98? Their LPG certification?? no.
An ad hominem attack is where the attack is based on the characteristics or authority of the writer without addressing the substance of the argument. When you have to resort to ad hominem attacks to make your point, you’ve already lost the argument. Continue reading
Deb Kauz writes:
I understand all of this and I also understand that it all assumes that we sit around and do nothing while this was occuring. There IS a risk. I’m not trying to say there isn’t but it seems a little like ChickenLittle yelling about the sky falling. If I’m the person who gets hurt yep, I’ll be really pissed at myself. However, I think the safety checks that I do minimize my risks. Do I want to rely on someone else’s quality control? I do it all the time. Every time I get in my car, every time I light my stove…every time I do anything that can be dangerous I rely on someone else’s quality control. As a nurse BOY did I rely on someone else’s quality control…as did the ICU patients that I cared for on a daily basis. Our LIVES revolve around someone else’s quality control.
Uhh, Deb? First of all, you work OUTSIDE with your bulk tank and hot head torch. You’ve already minimized your hazards by a huge amount. Next, the examples you cite as “someone else’s quality control” are based on either huge numbers of production (automobiles, medical instruments, etc), whereas the production of RV tank hoses is relatively small in comparison.
This is about EDUCATION. Telling people the FACTS so they can make a safe decision with all the FACTS. Continue reading
No, not really…
Debt Kauz writes (over several posts):
I use a HH with a bulk tank. Geeze…why do I feel like I’m at BTA (bulk tank annonymous)? LOL I check it frequently. I use it outside. And I’ll keep doing it. I realize that there are folks out there that get their knicks in a twist about those of us who do it but other than you I’ve never heard of any other issues. I check things frequently. Would I use it inside? Not a chance in hell! Continue reading
I really really hate to say I told you so…
Last night while torching in my garage, with the propane tank far away from me thank goodness, I had an explosion. The hose that is attached to my hot head apparently had a leak. I have been a little stuffy so I didn’t smell the propane leaking. When the fumes hit the fire it exploded, it was like a fire ball in the face. Lukily I have great ventilation so it was a small explosion but it was enough to blow the hose off the hot head, the mandrel out of my hands, and singe the hair around my face. My face hurts a little this morning but somehow I escaped any burns to my face. I was wearing safety glasses so my eyes were protected. I really feel lucky. Now I am afraid to use the hose (I won’t be able to use the same one because when it happened the hose separated from the fitting). Is it possible I had the flame set too low and the tank turned up too high? Anyway, I bought the hose from a reliable store online, and obviously I somehow didn’t do something right but I think I am going back to small mapp tanks that I know are attached and not leaking. I am kind of embarassed this happened to me but I thought I would tell the story so it doesn’t happen to anyone else. Make sure your hoses are attached properly!!!! AND DO NOT TORCH BY THE TANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RV hose kits, bulk tanks and hot head torches are a ticking time bomb when used together.
And Yes I’m the guy that does not see quite the danger the others see if you use a good quality commercially manufactured hose from a reputable supplier…
When someone decides to start giving safety information, they take a burden upon themselves to provide correct and proper information, as well as being sure that the information you provide does not put someone at risk.
When there is a preponderance of information provided by other knowledgeable people and you are the lone wolf, perhaps it is time to reconsider the basis of your stand.
We have a responsibility to our fellow glassworkers when we provide safety information. That responsibility includes following all of the National Codes, the law and the rules as set forth by the various regulative bodies. Case in point is the use of the so-called high pressure hose assemblies for using a bulk tank with a hot head torch. Continue reading
In the current issue of the ISGB quarterly magazine “The Glass Bead”, Vince Henley writes in his Studio Safety Column:
Another myth prevelant in the glass studio folklore is that it is OK to use a Hot Head or similar torch with a “bulk” tank and a suitable adapter in a studio. <snipped> They were never designed to be attached to a “bulk tank” via a hose, and all such adapters are after-market devices designed and/or supplied by third parties. They have not been certified for use with either the MAPP container or the torch. Continue reading